In Which Maile Becomes a Menace to Society

Something happens to us when we don’t make time for the creativity we love. Some of us feel melancholy, even depressed. Some of us start to feel empty. Others of us feel stressed out or anxious.

Maile? She becomes a menace to society.

In today’s episode of The Stories Between Us, Maile and I begin to unpack the question of where our writing is taking us. Where are we going? And Maile discusses a book she read recently in which a character was told they have to make space for creativity in their life or they’ll become a menace to society.

And Maile can relate.

We’ll be releasing new episodes every Tuesday morning!

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The Stories Between Us Episode 2

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The Stories Between Us Episode 1

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When I was Afraid of City Schools

I was in junior high when we boarded the yellow school bus and pulled out of the parking lot. We were quieter than usual, I remember that, mostly because we were all a little nervous regarding our opponents that afternoon.

McCaskey High School.

I grew up in the country, first on a farm and later in a house situated on a one-acre plot surrounded by fields. On humid summer nights, I would go for runs on those back country roads, completely at home in that feeling of incredible aloneness, winding my way through corn that grew well up over my head. That dirt, that quiet, that empty sky got into my blood.

I say all of that only to explain how uncomfortable I felt as the bus pulled into the city, made its way in among the row homes and the cracked sidewalks. When we passed the prison, I stared up at its castle-like turrets, its barbed wire and high brick walls. When we got off the bus and walked into the city school where the game was being held, I had never felt more out of place.

I have to be honest and say that I’m sure much of my nervousness came from entering into a space dominated by people of color. My high school had only a handful of young people who were not white. I was comfortable there in my back country school, tucked in among so many that looked like me, sounded like me, believed like me. Going into that city school when I was a kid, I was afraid of those kids because they didn’t look like me.

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When Maile and I realized she had reached the end of the line when it came to homeschooling, that she could no longer teach our four oldest kids and remain sane, our immediate thought was, “We have to move.” After all, through various life circumstances, we found ourselves living in the very city I had feared as a child. Except we loved it.

But send our kids to those city schools?

I don’t think so.

So, in the winter of what would be our last year homeschooling, we put our home on the market. Our dear friend and realtor Dave, who has so loyally trekked alongside us through our many moments of indecision, listed the house for us.

One problem, though. We didn’t want to leave the city. We loved it on James Street–loved our neighbors, loved the convenience, loved all the things going on, loved the diversity our kids were growing up around.

But the schools.

Two families helped us right the ship. We invited the Kings over to our house, a family who had made the homeschool-to-city-school transition, and we talked with them long into the night. They told us stories about their kids finding their way in the School District of Lancaster (SDOL), a Title I school (read: full of kids growing up in poverty). And their stories heartened us.

Then, not long after that, my sister and brother-in-law came over with their family, and we spent the evening talking about the city. At one point, Ben asked us, “So, why are you guys moving?” Maile and I looked at each other.

We didn’t know the answer.

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“We’ll just take small steps,” we told each other. “We don’t have to make any final decisions yet.”

And the first step was sending our oldest son to McCaskey High School with a friend he could shadow for the day. He came home totally amped up. He loved it. He loved the school, the vibe, the adventure of it all.

We had not expected that.

The second step was to visit the elementary school where our two middle-aged kids would go. We walked the halls of Ross Elementary with them, led by the most wonderful principal, and I found myself totally shocked. This was not the city elementary school I had expected. I don’t even know exactly what I had expected. But the principal knew every child by name. The kids were quiet and respectful. There was art on the walls and we could hear sounds from the music room floating down the hallways.

It reminded me of the elementary school I had attended as a kid. The one out in the country.

I remember walking home with Maile, two of our kids running ahead of us. I watched them navigate the traffic lights, chatting the entire way. They had loved it. Maile looked at me.

“Why are we moving?” she asked.

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We called Dave, our realtor. We asked him to take our house off the market. Poor Dave. We’re always doing this to him. The next day he called, as if with one final test. “Are you sure you don’t want to move? I’ve got an offer right at your asking price.

We were sure. We weren’t going to move.

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A few weeks ago, I went to school with Lucy on Saturday morning for Tag Day. It’s the one Saturday of the year when several hundred McCaskey students involved in choirs or bands take to the streets and ask the people in our city if they’ll donate money to the music program. Just the thought of going door to door made me nearly sick–I hate that kind of thing. I think Lucy felt the same way.

At school, we loaded up our 15-passenger van with high school music kids and drove to our assigned route. They hopped out, and I couldn’t believe how enthusiastic they were. We went from house to house, but instead of getting the response I expected (basically, “Get off my lawn!”), we were greeted by person after person who loved Lancaster city, loved McCaskey, and couldn’t wait to give some money. We even passed people on the sidewalk who wondered what we were doing (the kids were dressed in choir robes and band outfits), and many of those people pulled out their wallets on the spot.

The kids even sang at some of the houses where we stopped.

Our small group of 12 kids raised over $500 in a few hours.

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There’s something to be said about not making decisions out of fear. If there’s a direction you think you want to go but you’re afraid, take the next small step. You’ll find your way.

If you haven’t had a chance to listen to the first episode of the podcast Maile and I recorded about creativity, publishing, and the writing life, you can check that out HERE. Episode 2 comes out tomorrow!

The Prayers of Flannery O’Connor

Today’s letter from Jen is one of my favorites so far:

“This morning, I finally cracked open Flannery O’Connor’s published prayer journal, which I’d borrowed weeks ago from the library. (Have I told you about my terrible library habits, how I never return books on time? I’ve come to view my regular fines as “subscription” fees, and that seems to assuage the guilt.) In her very first prayer, she writes, “I want very much to succeed in the world with what I want to do. I have prayed to You about this with my mind and my nerves on it and strung my nerves into a tension over it and said, ‘oh God please,’ and ‘I must,’ and ‘please, please.’” At the time of the writing the journal, Flannery was only 23 without any published writing of consequence. I have to admit that I was awed—and also a little bit aghast—at the audacity of her prayer. It makes me wonder if I could have that same kind of urgency about my calling.”

You can head here to read the letter in its entirety.

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What began as a Twitter conversation between two writers on creative work and family life has become an exchange of letters. Here is where Postmarked began:

Postmarked: Dear Shawn (1)

Our First Podcast Episode is Here! Listen! Share! Rejoice!

Our podcast, The Stories Between Us, launches today! Yay!

Maile and I talk about our long and sordid history with writing (not that sordid, actually), rejection in the aisles of Target, and I try to be encouraging but Maile brings me back to Earth with a tough question.

You can find us over at Apple podcasts (please subscribe, please subscribe!) or you can listen below.

Also, if you enjoy what you hear, please consider donating a small monthly amount to help us keep the podcast going. You can do this over at Patreon, where we’re accepting as little as $1 a month. Seriously, anything you can do would be awesome.

But most importantly, enjoy the episode!

The Inside Scoop on Our Podcast (and How You Can Help)

We’re starting a Patreon community! If you know what that is and want to join us, head HERE. If you want to find out more, keep reading…

Tomorrow is a big day–it’s the official launch of our podcast, The Stories Between Us! Maile and I have been having so much fun recording our thoughts and hopes (and discouragements) when it comes to creativity (with six kids in the house), publishing, and the writing life. These are conversations we had all the time even before we started the podcast–we figured we might as well share them with you.

Here are a few reasons I think you’ll love it:

1) Maile is fantastic–she’s honest, she goes straight to the point, and she asks me really poignant questions that make me uncomfortable

2) We talk about tough stuff that creative folks encounter, things like rejection, feeling inadequate, and jealousy (which is even tougher when the person you’re jealous of is your spouse)

3) At the end of a recent episode, Leo (who we thought was asleep), shouted down from upstairs, “Mom! Dad! I have to make a poop!”

4) Our main hope is to be an encouragement to anyone who is trying to live a creative life

So, how can you help? I’m glad you asked.

I’ve been blogging off and on for ten years now, and I’ve released a few free ebooks, and every month I send out a free newsletter. Now, Maile and I are releasing a free podcast. That’s a lot of content.

If you’ve enjoyed my writing through the years, or if you’re excited for our podcast, you can join our Patreon community and help us cover a few small start-up expenses (microphone, sound-editing app) along with some ongoing costs (podcast hosting). You can donate as little as $1 a month and we’ll love you forever. For $5 a month, you’ll have access to the Stories Between Us community and receive bonus content including blog posts and videos as well as have access to Maile and me and everyone else in the community. There are other options as well, some that even include monthly writing coaching from yours truly.

Anyway, if you’re interested in helping to fund our ongoing work, you can find out how to do that HERE.

Stay tuned tomorrow for links to our first podcast episode, and thanks so much for journeying with us for the last ten years!

Postmarked: Dear Jen (12)

Dear Jen

I hope this note finds you and your family doing well! It must be exciting, being so close to entering your renovated place. There’s something wonderful about starting again, about clearing away the old. There’s something so metaphorical about renovations, isn’t there?

Things are going well here in our small city. We’ve hit our stride as far as school routines go, I think, and Maile and I have both heaved that collective sigh of relief, as each child shows that they are finding their way. The temperatures are cooler each night, and the nights are longer each morning, and right now a strong breeze sends leaves clattering against the front of the house. It’s such an invigorating time of year.

I recognize in you a kind of middle-of-life maturity that I am only discovering in myself, specifically the ability to say no to opportunities that would actually be quite beneficial if they didn’t somehow take away from the more important things in my life. I’ve recently said “no, thank you,” to two speaking or conference opportunities because it would mean unnecessary time away from the family for little or no pay. In the past, my ego would have latched onto the chance to be on stage or promote my work, but as I get older, and by the grace of God, I’ve been able to see more clearly. It’s still not easy, saying no to such opportunities, but when I do I can almost feel a physical release in me, a kind of delicious letting go, like the ability to breathe deeply again when I didn’t even realize I had been holding my breath.

These yes or no propositions so often involve the circle you wrote about in your last letter, and when you asked the question, “What am I uniquely gifted to do?” I felt my eyes drawn to those words. For a moment, I couldn’t read any further.

“What am I uniquely called to do?”

It seems a rather momentous question to answer, one that shouldn’t be responded to frivolously or without great consideration. I think, I think, my answer would be that I am uniquely called to recognize and tell good stories. And if I continue being honest, I have to say that seeing those words written out makes it all seem rather silly, perhaps a bit childish. There are so many other callings that bear more weight, that carry more consequence.

But being uniquely called to recognize and tell good stories? I don’t know. It’s hard for me not to diminish that in my own mind.

Perhaps we are all tempted to do that in one way or another (diminish our own calling), and perhaps that’s what has led us to this place of distraction and noise and disjointed living. I don’t know for sure, but there seems to be some subterranean connection between all of those.

You know, maybe if I would give myself permission to fully live into my calling, I would have the same feeling of freedom I had when I said no to those opportunities. The expanded airways. The deep breath. The relief.

I’m curious—how did you answer that question? And what were the other questions you considered? If they are anything as probing as the first, that must be quite a list.

Thanks for your excitement regarding our podcast. Some of the inspiration for it came from these very conversations that you and I have been having. It’s called The Stories Between Us, and we’re releasing our first episode on Tuesday the 22nd. I’m eager to hear what you think about it.

And thanks also for your interest in my next title, These Nameless Things. You are very insightful! There is certainly a trauma that comes with nameless things, a burden we bear when we refuse to tell the truth, when we refuse to share the stories we are hiding. I’ll have to tell you more about it sometime.

How is your March 1 book coming along?

Happy renovating!

Kind Regards

Shawn

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What began as a Twitter conversation between two writers on creative work and family life has become an exchange of letters. Here is where Postmarked began:

Postmarked: Dear Shawn (1)