NEW EPISODE! S4E23: Creating in Times of Stress

Maile and Shawn start by clearing something up from the previous episode that might have led listeners to believer their marriage was heading for disaster. They also discuss the various things that have helped them make space for creativity, even during stressful, chaotic times of life. 

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